On Jonah Goldberg on Woodrow Wilson
Feb 6th, 2008 by Micah Tillman | 4 Comments |
I wanted to make four comments on Goldberg’s “You want a more ‘progressive’ America? Careful what you wish for.” I’ll tack a conclusion onto the end.
Sorry if I’m making my progressive friends feel attacked by all this. But it was just too interesting not to blog about.
I. Obama and Oprah
Goldberg writes:
It may be gauche to talk about patriotism too much in liberal circles, but what is Barack Obama’s obsession with unity other than patriotism by another name?
Cf. Rep. Oberstar’s endorsement speech for Obama where he talks about Obama being a leader for the world to “rally” around, and says that restoring America’s image is more important than global warming and the economy. (Rather shocking, I think.)
(Also, see Oprah’s UCLA speech (ca. minute 2:18-35). She says Obama has changed how Americans look at each other [???], and will change how the rest of the world looks at us.)
Combine the patriotism/unity theme with Oprah’s cult-of-personality language (here, minute 1:00-2:16):
For the first time . . . in our voting lives we are moved to think about politics and the power of its possibility in a different kind of way. . . . We’re all energized. We’re excited. We’re excited. And we’re fired up. We’re fired up for the change that has already come.
I like the messianic imagery there. Even had me excited. Oprah continues:
We’re fired up because of one man, Barack Obama. . . . You can feel the spirit and the energy and intelligence he has already brought to this election process. And just imagine what he’s gonna do when he gets in the White House.
I thought it was interesting that we are supposed to have found our inspiration and hope in a person, not in the vision or set of principles which the person champions. I suppose every campaign engages in this cult-of-personality rhetoric, but in the context of the fascism discussions going on at Goldberg’s blog, I thought Oprah’s way of putting things was intriguing. (Click here for more on nationalism/cult-of-personality and fascism.)
II. Principles and Proofs
Speaking of principles, Goldberg’s quotation of Wilson — “mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle” — is intriguing. If Wilson thought principles can be “speculation,” then there must be something more fundamental than them by which we judge them.
But what could be more fundamental than a principle? You can’t have an infinite regress in logic. You can’t prove everything “all the way down”! Every proof is ultimately founded on unprovable assumptions.
Goldberg makes the same point when he says, Hillary Clinton’s “‘beyond ideology’ refrain is itself an ideological position . . . .” Is the opposite of ideology, “falsifiable/provable theory”? If so, then an ideology must be something like a set of “fundamental assumptions.” But you can’t prove or disprove a fundamental assumption, if it’s truly fundamental. So what could be “beyond ideology”?
Makes you wonder if either Wilson or Clinton understood/stand what principles are.
III. Human Atomism
And I loved the following line from Goldberg:
[W]e make a mistake when we assume that we can cherry pick only the good parts of our past to re-create.
There are so many fascinating propositions about human nature and human events built into that claim. He seems to be arguing that human nature/history is not atomistic; no event or belief or trait is an island. Each is an inseparable part of a wider web of events or facts or truths. You grab one strand, and the whole skein/tangle comes with it.
I don’t want to put words in his mouth, though.
IV. Old-Time Progressives on Tyranny
Finally, I loved the juxtaposition of quotations from old progressives:
In his 1890 essay, “Leaders of Men,” Wilson explained that a “true leader” uses the masses like “tools.” He must inflame their passions with little heed for the facts. “Men are as clay in the hands of the consummate leader.”
This is the ultimate version of the individualist leadership model, it seems to me. And yet, (quoting Rauschenbusch, of whom I’d never heard, but who Goldberg says was another member of the progressive movement at that time):
“Individualism means tyranny.”
You can’t call for tyranny and rip something for being tyranny at the same time. Of course Wilson and Rauschenbusch aren’t the same person. But since both claims come from members of the same movement, the tension is fascinating.
Conclusion
Goldberg’s book is Liberal Fascism. If you want a conversation on the book, see his blog. You’ll get a ton of links to his critics and his responses. (Unfortunately, I don’t know how to get to the archives of the blog, other than running searches for keywords.)
I tell my students that philosophy is done in conversation, and — whether you agree with him or not — Goldberg is doing a great job of making the whole thing conversational.

I doubt Obama would be a Woodrow Wilson. There is a fear that he would be a Jimmy Carter. I think there is a misunderstanding of his view of a “one” America being one that is not monolithic but diverse(different races, cultures, religions) yet not all thinking the same but being together as Americans. Patriotism without xenophobia and nativism.
*grin* We both doubt he would be another Wilson.
But way back at the beginning of the Bush presidency I came up with a (joke) theory that Bush was the Anti-Christ because he was so cute and adorable that no one would ever suspect him. I was rather amused with myself at the time.
Then 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq happened and I couldn’t make the joke anymore because people actually started to believe he was the Anti-Christ.
So Obama strikes me as a great guy now (though, to misquote Darth Vader, “I find [his] . . . faith [in government] disturbing”), but who knows . . . .
A few thoughts:
“It may be gauche to talk about patriotism too much in liberal circles, but what is Barack Obama’s obsession with unity other than patriotism by another name?”
A) There’s actually a whole flock of straw men here. The first is the implication that the sort of liberals who are actually running for president would consider it gauche to talk about patriotism.
B)Obama, in particular, couldn’t be more upfront about this. He begins “The audicity of Hope” with a fairly sophisticated and detailed argument which comes down to a defence of the idea that there is a real America, there is a valid American dream, and that patriotism is a good thing.
C) The use of the word “obsession” is over-the-top and builds in prejudice.
D) There is a unity that’s wider than patriotism simultanously being called for. It seems to be recognized later. Some of Obama’s calls for unity goes beyond our borders. I don’t think it’s difficult to discern when he’s talking about diplomacy and when he’s taking about patriotism. Both are major concerns for him. The above quote was ended with a question that might have been intended rhetorically. But there’s a fair answer to it: Sometimes his call for unity isn’t patriotism, his call for unity is a call for a renewed emphasis on diplomacy and international consensus building.
As for the: “W]e make a mistake when we assume that we can cherry pick only the good parts of our past to re-create.” I agree that this is great stuff. It calls into question some of the fundamental assumptions that we operate from, on either side of the political divide. Liberals and conservatives alike seem to be attempting to cherry pick the best of their respective pasts. I’m sure 99.9% of the conservatives out there would not like to bring back the racism and opression that ran rampant in the 1950’s. (Just as whatever promised-time that liberals are trying to create had its own downside which liberals wouldn’t want to bring along with the upside.)
> I don’t know how to get to the archives of the blog …
LF archives
http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/archives/