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	<title>Comments on: Simply Christian, by N.T. Wright</title>
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		<title>By: Micah Tillman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Monty Python vs. Family Guy vs. Geertz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah Tillman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Monty Python vs. Family Guy vs. Geertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course, I wouldn&#8217;t have thought of the issue in those terms were it not for Dr. Chase bringing up Geertz earlier. And my co-opting of Geertz&#8217;s &#8220;thin vs. thick&#8221; language is a little [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course, I wouldn&#8217;t have thought of the issue in those terms were it not for Dr. Chase bringing up Geertz earlier. And my co-opting of Geertz&#8217;s &#8220;thin vs. thick&#8221; language is a little [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Micah Tillman</title>
		<link>http://micahtillman.com/2008/04/24/simply-christian-by-nt-wright/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah Tillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Dewey likewise had a theory of meaning (which was, I think -- like Husserl's notion of "horizons" -- influenced by William James's notion of "fringes") which was contextual/relational in the sense that the Wikipedia article describes Geertz's as being.

(That was a convoluted sentence. Sorry.)

But so did Ferdinand de Saussure, I just discovered yesterday.

I had never heard of the concept of "thinness" in the religious context until the sermon mentioned in this post. 

I wonder whether it might not be better to relate "thickness" in Geertz's sense with thinness in the Celtic religious sense. Both involve, it seems to me, the issue of expanding a context.

(E.g., the context of a "thin place" is not just the surrounding "material world" but the spiritual world as well.)

*ponders*

Oh, and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Postmodernism-Serves-Faith-Questioning/dp/0830827587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214263555&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dr. Downing's book&lt;/a&gt; is an extremely helpful treatment of postmoderinsim and religion. Quality information and thinking. Hers is the real deal (as opposed to the Brian McLaren's frustrating &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/McLaren-Boxed-Christian-Story-Ourselves/dp/0787982091/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214264208&#038;sr=1-6" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;A New Kind of Christian&lt;em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; trilogy by Brian McClaren).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Dewey likewise had a theory of meaning (which was, I think &#8212; like Husserl&#8217;s notion of &#8220;horizons&#8221; &#8212; influenced by William James&#8217;s notion of &#8220;fringes&#8221;) which was contextual/relational in the sense that the Wikipedia article describes Geertz&#8217;s as being.</p>
<p>(That was a convoluted sentence. Sorry.)</p>
<p>But so did Ferdinand de Saussure, I just discovered yesterday.</p>
<p>I had never heard of the concept of &#8220;thinness&#8221; in the religious context until the sermon mentioned in this post. </p>
<p>I wonder whether it might not be better to relate &#8220;thickness&#8221; in Geertz&#8217;s sense with thinness in the Celtic religious sense. Both involve, it seems to me, the issue of expanding a context.</p>
<p>(E.g., the context of a &#8220;thin place&#8221; is not just the surrounding &#8220;material world&#8221; but the spiritual world as well.)</p>
<p>*ponders*</p>
<p>Oh, and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Postmodernism-Serves-Faith-Questioning/dp/0830827587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214263555&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Dr. Downing&#8217;s book</a> is an extremely helpful treatment of postmoderinsim and religion. Quality information and thinking. Hers is the real deal (as opposed to the Brian McLaren&#8217;s frustrating <a href="http://www.amazon.com/McLaren-Boxed-Christian-Story-Ourselves/dp/0787982091/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214264208&#038;sr=1-6" rel="nofollow"><em>A New Kind of Christian</em><em></em></a> trilogy by Brian McClaren).</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Thin places.&lt;/b&gt;  There is a resurgence of interest in anthropologist Clifford Geertz's notion of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thick_description" rel="nofollow"&gt;thick and thin descriptions&lt;/a&gt;  these days, especially among writers commenting on postmodern notions.

That includes me commenting on my colleague Crystal Downing's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Postmodernism-Serves-Faith-Questioning/dp/0830827587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214263555&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;book&lt;/a&gt; on postmodernism.  I offer no citation since my talk is only available in PowerPoint&#174;.  But I do have a &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Linked-Everything-Connected-Else-Means/dp/0452284392" rel="nofollow"&gt;review&lt;/a&gt;  of her book.

I'm interested to see you identify "thin" with Celtic tradition.  Geertz was American.  Made me wonder whether Geertz was in turn influenced by Celtic views.  Or whether it's just that the sociologists of the internet are right:  &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Linked-Everything-Connected-Else-Means/dp/0452284392" rel="nofollow"&gt;Everything is connected.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Thin places.</b>  There is a resurgence of interest in anthropologist Clifford Geertz&#8217;s notion of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thick_description" rel="nofollow">thick and thin descriptions</a>  these days, especially among writers commenting on postmodern notions.</p>
<p>That includes me commenting on my colleague Crystal Downing&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Postmodernism-Serves-Faith-Questioning/dp/0830827587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1214263555&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">book</a> on postmodernism.  I offer no citation since my talk is only available in PowerPoint&reg;.  But I do have a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Linked-Everything-Connected-Else-Means/dp/0452284392" rel="nofollow">review</a>  of her book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested to see you identify &#8220;thin&#8221; with Celtic tradition.  Geertz was American.  Made me wonder whether Geertz was in turn influenced by Celtic views.  Or whether it&#8217;s just that the sociologists of the internet are right:  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Linked-Everything-Connected-Else-Means/dp/0452284392" rel="nofollow">Everything is connected.</a></p>
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