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	<title>Comments on: Whose Justice Do You Prefer?</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, good point!</description>
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		<title>By: Micah Tillman</title>
		<link>http://micahtillman.com/2008/06/30/whose-justice-do-you-prefer/#comment-2984</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah Tillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seb--

*laugh*

Amanda--

Those do seem to be the two primary forms of justice we think about, don't they? And you're right that we think about "people getting what they deserve" as being on the criminal justice side of things.

But maybe the social justice side only looks like it has nothing to do with people getting what they deserve because the assumption is that everyone deserves the same things equally. Like, maybe if you're a war criminal, you fall off the social justice map by suddenly deserving nothing good. Maybe?

RG--

I think you're right about Superman. For W, however, I think you might could just say "a world free," and just stop there. Your version of MLK's justice sounds right (as the end goal at least).

On Al Gore, I think you and Seb are both right. And on Bono . . . . I always think about Africa Debt Relief when his name comes up, and I don' t know the economics of the situation well enough to know whether what he wants on that front is actually good. But it sounds nice.

And I think he does other things too, maybe?

Oh, and I think of different sunglasses when I think of Bono, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seb&#8211;</p>
<p>*laugh*</p>
<p>Amanda&#8211;</p>
<p>Those do seem to be the two primary forms of justice we think about, don&#8217;t they? And you&#8217;re right that we think about &#8220;people getting what they deserve&#8221; as being on the criminal justice side of things.</p>
<p>But maybe the social justice side only looks like it has nothing to do with people getting what they deserve because the assumption is that everyone deserves the same things equally. Like, maybe if you&#8217;re a war criminal, you fall off the social justice map by suddenly deserving nothing good. Maybe?</p>
<p>RG&#8211;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about Superman. For W, however, I think you might could just say &#8220;a world free,&#8221; and just stop there. Your version of MLK&#8217;s justice sounds right (as the end goal at least).</p>
<p>On Al Gore, I think you and Seb are both right. And on Bono . . . . I always think about Africa Debt Relief when his name comes up, and I don&#8217; t know the economics of the situation well enough to know whether what he wants on that front is actually good. But it sounds nice.</p>
<p>And I think he does other things too, maybe?</p>
<p>Oh, and I think of different sunglasses when I think of Bono, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Renaissance Guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman--all the bad guys locked up

George W. Bush--a world free of terrorism

Martin Luther King--a black kid and a white kid playing together happily

Al Gore--everyone else living green while he sits in his hot tub in his mansion

Bono--Ireland giving aid to Africa with other people's tax money while he invests his tax-free in another country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman&#8211;all the bad guys locked up</p>
<p>George W. Bush&#8211;a world free of terrorism</p>
<p>Martin Luther King&#8211;a black kid and a white kid playing together happily</p>
<p>Al Gore&#8211;everyone else living green while he sits in his hot tub in his mansion</p>
<p>Bono&#8211;Ireland giving aid to Africa with other people&#8217;s tax money while he invests his tax-free in another country</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question....   I have no idea!! :)  

I've been thinking lately about social justice and criminal justice.  On some level, these two justices are different.  Social justice is about equality regardless of whether it is deserved while criminal justice is about what is deserved (punishment) in a particular situation....

Ok, I need to go rest my brain.  That's enough thinking for such a gorgeous day as this!  (Well just kidding....  I'm actually working on a post in which I will try to graciously eviscerate a book I just read.  lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question&#8230;.   I have no idea!! :)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking lately about social justice and criminal justice.  On some level, these two justices are different.  Social justice is about equality regardless of whether it is deserved while criminal justice is about what is deserved (punishment) in a particular situation&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ok, I need to go rest my brain.  That&#8217;s enough thinking for such a gorgeous day as this!  (Well just kidding&#8230;.  I&#8217;m actually working on a post in which I will try to graciously eviscerate a book I just read.  lol)</p>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice &lt;i&gt;a la&lt;/i&gt; word association:

George W. Bush ~&#62; His gut feeling
MLK, Jr. ~&#62; Equality
Al Gore ~&#62; A zero-sum lifestyle
Superman ~&#62; Whatever the courts will permit within benevolent vigilantism
Bono ~&#62; Still hasn't found where the streets have no name (of love)

...none of which I'm personally comfortable with. My idea of justice lies somewhere a bit closer to, say, &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=JpNB2SoNfyg" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice <i>a la</i> word association:</p>
<p>George W. Bush ~&gt; His gut feeling<br />
MLK, Jr. ~&gt; Equality<br />
Al Gore ~&gt; A zero-sum lifestyle<br />
Superman ~&gt; Whatever the courts will permit within benevolent vigilantism<br />
Bono ~&gt; Still hasn&#8217;t found where the streets have no name (of love)</p>
<p>&#8230;none of which I&#8217;m personally comfortable with. My idea of justice lies somewhere a bit closer to, say, <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=JpNB2SoNfyg" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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